6X12 and 7X14 pics please.

[ConqSoft]

Originally Posted by figment

I still don't understand where your tie-point is on the floor of the trailer with the choc all the way to the front
Are your front straps at right angles to the bike?

Even with the chock all the way to the front, you still have some forward area. The bars are behind the front wheel.

[ConqSoft]

Originally Posted by BDA116

Just buy a Sport Chock, put it anywhere in your trailer you want and use two tie downs, just snug, on the back - pulling forward. Much better on the forks, and no chance of dropping the bike. Unless you're a moron.

Why not just buy an R1? It's the pefect bike for towing. Needs no chocks or tie downs. It just stands on its own.

Originally Posted by figment

I still don't understand where your tie-point is on the floor of the trailer with the choc all the way to the front
Are your front straps at right angles to the bike?

Nope, they are angled well ahead of the forks...

Originally Posted by ConqSoft

Why not just buy an R1? It's the pefect bike for towing. Needs no chocks or tie downs. It just stands on its own.

My R1 had an integrated Garmin with a seek function....I just plugged in the coords, and it was waiting for me when I go there...

Originally Posted by ConqSoft

Even with the chock all the way to the front, you still have some forward area. The bars are behind the front wheel.

Not enough IMHO, but I've dropped two bikes so far.

Originally Posted by Baketech

Nope, they are angled well ahead of the forks...

K

Originally Posted by figment

Not enough IMHO, but I've dropped two bikes so far.

Study how a pair of vise grips work and you will see why it works better with a steeper tie down angle...

[BDA116]

Originally Posted by ConqSoft

Why not just buy an R1? It's the pefect bike for towing. Needs no chocks or tie downs. It just stands on its own.

True dat.

Originally Posted by Baketech

Study how a pair of vise grips work and you will see why it works better with a steeper tie down angle...

so you're saying the blue tie-point angle in my pic is better than the red?

[ConqSoft]

Yeah, I'd say following the angle of the forks is a good angle to use. (But, mine have usually been closer to the red line. See pics on page 2 or 3 of this thread.)

Originally Posted by figment

so you're saying the blue tie-point angle in my pic is better than the red?

The angle on my straps is more like the red line...

Originally Posted by ConqSoft

Yeah, I'd say following the angle of the forks is a good angle to use. (But, mine have usually been closer to the red line. See pics on page 2 or 3 of this thread.)

With the exception of CP straps, thats How I STARTED tying the bikes down. I still use about the same angle in front, and now use the opposite angle in back tied to the rear subframe with soft ties.

Mine is probably somewhere in between the two...but here's something to think about if you are using the CD....

In the picture you have drawn, the red boomer will require about 10% greater tension to generate the same amount of suspension compression, and it just gets worse the shallower you go...

Originally Posted by Baketech

Mine is probably somewhere in between the two...but here's something to think about if you are using the CD....

In the picture you have drawn, the red boomer will require about 10% greater tension to generate the same amount of suspension compression, and it just gets worse the shallower you go...

Correct, and suspension compression is good because if the bike compresses while in the choc in transit, the strap can loosen due to shock-strain.

Originally Posted by figment

Correct, and suspension compression is good because if the bike compresses while in the choc in transit, the strap can loosen due to shock-strain.

That is an argument against a shallower angle...not for it...

Originally Posted by Baketech

That is an argument against a shallower angle...not for it...

Thats what I'm trying to work out here

Originally Posted by figment

Thats what I'm trying to work out here

The leg humping engineers will be along shortly...